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boytjie Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 3rd, 2007 07:19 pm |
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Have just completed a 10,000mi passage from SF, Calif to Auckland NZ aboard my IP45 #27. We sailed with a hydrovane autopilot most of the way in following winds and following seas. The wheel was locked off most of the time. Over time the vibration from the rudder was very unnerving. Each time a wave came from behind the entire rudder would rattle as sound as if it was about come free. In addition the packing started leaking and we took almost 10gal a day into the boat through the r/post. Also with the back of the boat submerged all the time, the scupper hoses soon corroded the wire and water began entering the boat there too.
Suggest IP install plastic re-inforced hose rather than black steel re-inforced rubber hose.
Also need input on what to do about the vibration and the leaking.
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latitude Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2007 07:21 pm |
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Interesting post. I just bought a 45 and noted the vibration too. It seems to be a design defect which they live with. There is some kind of shim they (IP)sell to add at the rudder post and shoe. I will certainly replace the scupper hoses myself as we are planning trans atlantic in the summer. How do you like the boat for offshore work otherwise? Did you add any grab rails midship ?
martin/Latitude
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boytjie Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2007 10:35 pm |
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....didnt installmidships ...as im tall and was able to swing from place to place with existing hand grabs in rolling seas ... yes but did add s/s grab rails in the fwd berth so i could install lee cloths to them via lines ... also added grab rails on ceiling in both heads to serves as both grab rails and hanging bars for foulies .. also converted fwd head to storage added padeyes and bungys plus interlocking plastic creates ..worked great ...fwd head carried 2 bikes (folding), emerg stays, all veggies
yes i have the kit and will install shim on next haul out .. ..infollowing seas that rudder shudder will make you really nervous ...at one pt we were taking 10gal per day thru rudder post .. the shudder seemed to work the packing loose somehow... .do u know what size the packing material is on the rudderpost ... almost no water came in during sea trials .. but after 1 week at sea (offshore) water started coming in via the stern ... also suggested installing a flapper on the exhaust..
have you sailed your 45 sailed much offshore yet?
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 09:49 pm |
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Hi. I bought IP45 in the US in May and sailed the boat back to UK in June/July. For the trip, after a lot of research I made the decision to buy a Hydrovane.
Unfortunately we had a bit of a disaster with it. Within the first few hundred miles the single tube on the bottom bracket started pulling out. We stopped the boat, went over the side and re-bolted. A few hundred miles later, the same thing again, necessitating removal of the rudder blade to avoid the whole unit breaking loose.
On arrival in Azores we rebuilt again but ditto on second leg.
For the miles the unit was working, we were never able to leave the unit to steer the boat and sit back and relax. On the contrary, as opposed to sitting at the stern wheel steering we sat at the stern pretty much continuously tweaking the steering rope.
If you did 10,000 miles with one, my guess is there's a flaw somewhere.
Any comments appreciated before I stick on eBay.
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boytjie Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:34 am |
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| if i were you i'd call the curry's and discuss the issue (google hydrovane and chat to them)....they are a family busines and the sole distributors of the vane ... it does sound like a some kind of flaw alright..keep me posted ..Mark
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stuartletton Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 09:41 pm |
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Hi Mark.
Thansk for getting back to me. In the few hundred miles the Hydrovane worked we were still unable to leave the helm position. We had to sit at the helm continually tweaking the line to keep the baot on track.
Were you able to leave the Hydrovane to do the steering for reasonable lengths of time?
Stuart
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 10:33 am |
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| Yes we were able to let the vane do the driving sometimes for days at a time...simply get the boat balanced under sail so that u can lock the wheel without engages the vane ensuring that the boat sail on course ..this may mean shortning the jib or reefing the main...once balanced engage the vane and sit back..she sail herself for 1000 mi or more
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